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Re: Game Of Thrones: Spoiler Thread

Post by The Swollen Goiter of God » May 28th, 2016, 8:39 pm

This show sounds like a comic book show.

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Post by Mal Shot First » May 28th, 2016, 8:43 pm

Plus, in the books, his real name was never known. Old Nan tells Bran and Rickon at one point that she thinks he was named Walder and that Hodor was just his bastardized version of his own name. There was never any mention of the name Wylis.

This leads me to believe that the "hold the door" explanation was specifically invented for the show. They didn't name him Walder on the show because they didn't want there to be any possible doubt as to the origin of the Hodor name.

I still think that leaving his name as Walder would have been a nice bit of misdirection, though.

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Post by The Swollen Goiter of God » May 28th, 2016, 9:41 pm

Mal Shot First wrote:They didn't name him Walder on the show because they didn't want there to be any possible doubt as to the origin of the Hodor name.
Sounds like the name they gave him on the show was just meant to be a placehodor.

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Post by Dalty » May 29th, 2016, 5:46 am

One of the Frey's got there first.

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Post by neglet » May 29th, 2016, 9:05 pm

I interpreted it as Hodor's brain was blown by the paradox.

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Post by Dalty » June 1st, 2016, 1:11 pm

Finally getting round to this weeks episode!

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Post by neglet » June 1st, 2016, 8:10 pm

My son's at officer training, so no electronics for him. I wrote a letter telling him the big spoiler for Episode 6 is that no named characters die. Shocking!

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Post by Dalty » June 2nd, 2016, 3:17 am

It's really, really gathering pace now. Conclusion feels on the horizon.

Have you seen the episode titles for the rest of the season???

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Post by Adam54 » June 6th, 2016, 10:58 am

The Hound lives! Al Swearengen doesn't! Arya is...iffy? In a pickle, to be sure.

This show has done nothing but strengthen my resolve to never, ever be stabbed.

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Post by Dalty » June 6th, 2016, 1:34 pm

Yay! The Hound! Watching it now......

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Post by neglet » June 6th, 2016, 9:58 pm

Adam54 wrote:The Hound lives! Al Swearengen doesn't! Arya is...iffy? In a pickle, to be sure.

This show has done nothing but strengthen my resolve to never, ever be stabbed.
The theory I've seen is that the dude with no name still owes Arya a death, so he was somehow masquerading as her. I'm not sure how he can imitate the tiny girl-body, but it's a fun theory. I think it was actually her ... and I think she ends up with the troupe, because we need more Richard E Grant.

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Post by Dalty » June 7th, 2016, 1:14 am

And that girl who hired the Faceless men with the lovely, lovely body. We need more of her.

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Post by Dalty » June 13th, 2016, 11:39 am

It's time.

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Post by Adam54 » June 13th, 2016, 11:59 am

I haven't watched yet, but everything I've heard leaves me to believe this episode is a disappointment.

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Post by Dalty » June 13th, 2016, 12:02 pm

Pretty good so far! It's typically antepenultimate in that it concerns itself with moving yet more pieces around the board for what's coming but it has some nice moments and some good old fashioned violence.

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Post by neglet » June 13th, 2016, 7:53 pm

Ah, but worth it for Arya kicking ass. Plus I love the interaction between Brianne and Jamie.

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Post by Mal Shot First » June 13th, 2016, 9:00 pm

Brienne and Jaime were the best part of the episode, in my opinion (okay, Clegane was pretty awesome, too). I like how over the course of the series, Jaime develops from a hothead to a more strategic thinker. A lot of that stems from the loss of his fighting hand, of course, since he has to reconsider who he is if he is not a knight, and he can't be a knight if he can't fight. The solution he finally comes up with to both avoid bloodshed and take the castle is like something that we're used to from Tyrion, but it's a new level of strategic thinking for Jaime.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: Spoiler Thread

Post by Dalty » June 14th, 2016, 8:11 am

The bit with Brienne and Jamie in the tent was great. I was genuinely worried they would end up having to cross swords.

Is it true that next week is 90mins long and contains the largest battle scene ever filmed for a TV show?

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Post by Scotia » June 15th, 2016, 6:22 pm

Does Jamie love Brienne? I think so. An odd couple for sure but I it's there under the surface, under his false words for Cersie.

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Post by Mal Shot First » June 15th, 2016, 7:33 pm

I think it's important to distinguish between the two types of love. I always have the feeling that his love for Brienne is more of a form of respect. He respects the purity of her ideals and the unbending will to stick to her convictions. That takes some real balls, especially in the line of work they're in. He sees something in her that he has never been able to be, and that is what he loves about her - the ideals of chivalry she embodies - but I don't think it's a kind of romantic love or physical attraction.

With Cersei, it's less obvious to see why he loves her. Part of it is that they are twins and share the bond of entering the world at the same time and spending most of their lives together. The decision that defines his life was made so he could be with Cersei (she's the reason he joined the Kingsguard - so Tywin couldn't make him stay at Casterly Rock and he could be around Cersei all the time, even if it meant forsaking the right to his father's name and inheritance). I admit, it's difficult to see this as love sometimes, but he is bound to her the way a married couple is bound to each other. After years of marriage, the passion of the early days may be gone (though we see plenty of passion every now and then), but there is a deeper love and understanding forged by years of togetherness.

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Post by Dalty » June 16th, 2016, 3:44 am

It was good enough for the Skywalkers!!!

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Post by Scotia » June 16th, 2016, 2:48 pm

Mal Shot First wrote:I think it's important to distinguish between the two types of love. I always have the feeling that his love for Brienne is more of a form of respect. He respects the purity of her ideals and the unbending will to stick to her convictions. That takes some real balls, especially in the line of work they're in. He sees something in her that he has never been able to be, and that is what he loves about her - the ideals of chivalry she embodies - but I don't think it's a kind of romantic love or physical attraction.

With Cersei, it's less obvious to see why he loves her. Part of it is that they are twins and share the bond of entering the world at the same time and spending most of their lives together. The decision that defines his life was made so he could be with Cersei (she's the reason he joined the Kingsguard - so Tywin couldn't make him stay at Casterly Rock and he could be around Cersei all the time, even if it meant forsaking the right to his father's name and inheritance). I admit, it's difficult to see this as love sometimes, but he is bound to her the way a married couple is bound to each other. After years of marriage, the passion of the early days may be gone (though we see plenty of passion every now and then), but there is a deeper love and understanding forged by years of togetherness.
Yeah, I agree completely. Jamie will never lust for Brienne the way he does for Cersei. He respects and admires her convictions too much. Sexually he must be messed up after so many years of banging his sister and her birthing his children. Has to be messed up. I don't ever remember him sleeping with anyone else? Maybe little Jamie can only rise to the occasion for Cersei.

Anyway I am impressed with the way the show has transformed Jamie's character from hated villain to unlikely hero. Maybe even the saviour of Westeros if some theories prove true.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: Spoiler Thread

Post by Dalty » June 17th, 2016, 1:26 am

Jon Snow and Dany team up required to defeat white walkers. Got to be.

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Re: Game Of Thrones: Spoiler Thread

Post by Adam54 » June 20th, 2016, 12:33 am

I just finished watching this week's episode and that may well have been the best they've ever done. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

The editing and direction in that battle scene were eleventy different kinds of remarkable.

Very, very , very little wrong with this episode. Jon disregarding Sansa's advice was a major bit of stupid, but its really not that unbievable for a man on this show to ignore what a woman has to say, so I'm fine with it.

Great episode. Goosebumps.
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Re: Game Of Thrones: Spoiler Thread

Post by Adam54 » June 20th, 2016, 12:34 am

And those DRAGONS!

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