That looks like a really interesting article from the skim read I had. Going to take a lot longer to take in properly. Looks like it's probably more in depth than just about every briefing pack our intelligence services have access to!
Very un-German inefficiency then. What was it then? Clerical error?
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 5:06 am
by Space Tycoon
Yeah, he just wanted to "expel" them. I can see why Bibi would be cool with that...
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 2:06 pm
by Dalty
My limited knowledge of Jewish plight in WW2 disagrees. If expulsion was the only penalty then Anne Frank didn't need to lay off the drum practice.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 2:13 pm
by Mal Shot First
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 3:17 pm
by Space Tycoon
Space Tycoon wrote:Yeah, he just wanted to "expel" them. I can see why Bibi would be cool with that...
That was intended as a shot at Israel's expulsion of you-know-who, 70 years ago.
Not that anyone asked.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 3:46 pm
by Dalty
Arafat?
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 5:17 pm
by Space Tycoon
More like a bunch of people who had the misfortune of, you know, living there for hundreds of years.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 5:35 pm
by Dalty
The Palestenians were treated far worse by the Arabs before the Israelis came along. Wonderful Arab/Muslim projectionism makes people forget that.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 23rd, 2015, 5:39 pm
by Space Tycoon
And yet, it is a fact of human nature that people would rather be misruled by their own, than ruled by others.
With so much of our foreign policy coming as a result of Israel's needs, there is nothing wrong with us taking a good hard look at the actual facts.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 24th, 2015, 1:34 am
by Dalty
Even with the Israeli's being there to be the focus of the Orwellian 'daily hate' the Muslims still attempt to devour each other like starving rats in a sack.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 24th, 2015, 6:44 am
by Mal Shot First
I don't know if such bickering is exclusive to the Muslim states of the Middle East (which is what it seemed like you were suggesting). A common religion didn't stop Europeans from killing each other century after century.
The "daily hate" against Israel doesn't even stem from the Israelis' religion. Muslims and Jews aren't simply natural enemies. Sure, over time religion has become an easy rhetorical tool to rile up the masses on both sides, but even without the religious component, Israel's political actions would be at the core of the hatred directed against it. I can assure you that there would be about as much hate against it if it were a Muslim state and acted the way it did.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 24th, 2015, 1:01 pm
by Dalty
We weren't fighting over our version of the same imaginary friend having a different punchline in the way we tell the same joke. We were just absolute bastards!
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 24th, 2015, 1:42 pm
by Space Tycoon
The conflict is as much territorial and racial as it is religulous. In fact, as I've said before, religion was never the main focus between Israel and the Arabs unfil the 70's and 80's.
Re: The Middle-East / Radical Islam
Posted: October 25th, 2015, 7:18 am
by Mal Shot First
Dalty wrote:We weren't fighting over our version of the same imaginary friend having a different punchline in the way we tell the same joke. We were just absolute bastards!