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We once roamed the vast forums of Corona Coming Attractions. Some of us had been around from The Before Times, in the Days of Excelsior, while others of us had only recently begun our trek. When our home became filled with much evil, including the villainous Cannot-Post-in-This-Browser and the dreaded Cannot-Log-In, we flounced away most huffily to this new home away from home. We follow the flag of Jubboiter and talk about movies, life, the universe, and everything, often in a most vulgar fashion. All are welcome here, so long as they do not take offense to our particular idiom.
- Mango
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A&W root beer flavored pop tarts are really weird.
- Mal Shot First
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What the fuck are you smoking, Adam?Adam54 wrote:When the fresh, rested challenger can run in and demand a match against an exhausted champion after or even, in at least one case, during his own match, of course it makes sense. Would it really devalue the championship to lose it to an opponent who rightfully won that contract and wisely picked the right spot to execute it? I don't think so, but I guess I can see where one might.
In true European fashion, I am against playoffs to begin with and think that the champion should be the one at the top of the table at the end of the regular season (i.e., at the end of league play). You've got 20 teams in the league, each plays a home and away match against all other teams, and after 38 matches the one with the best record is the champion. Simple. Pure.
Now, I can see the appeal of a no-name contender being given a shot at the title against the champion, but even if that were to happen, any true fan of a real sport would be disgusted at the proposition that the champions should play the contender on the spot right after playing their final match of the season. It totally skews the performance of the team that's being challenged and makes the whole scenario much less interesting, in my opinion, because you're not getting a contest in which each side is performing their best. I concede that every team or athlete has off days and might not reach their usual form on certain days, even though they're rested, but at least when that happens it's not because an artificial handicap has been introduced.
And that's what it boils down to: Most sports fans actually want a contest played under fair conditions (or at least what would appear as fair conditions or an even playing field) because winning a contest under such conditions indicates that one team/athlete was objectively better than another team/athlete during that particular season/playoff series/tournament. What would it prove if a soccer team challenged and defeated another soccer team right after the latter just finished playing a 90-minute game? Only that a rested team could defeat a team whose players just finished running an average of 7 miles each. It would be an uninteresting match to watch because it would either be very slow or completely one-sided.
And in the end, what self-respecting athlete outside of professional wrestling would even want to win a title that way anyway?
- Adam54
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I'm scared to reply to this here on the grounds that Negs might yell at me again.
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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I think we can smell what the Skog is smokin'.
- Dalty
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Can we all have some?
- neglet
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What? I'm cool with talk about sports!Adam54 wrote:I'm scared to reply to this here on the grounds that Negs might yell at me again.
- Dalty
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In the correct thread
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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Negs just made a mean and masterful dig, Dalty. You may have missed it.
- Adam54
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I was mostly talking about tennis and basketball! Those are sports!neglet wrote:What? I'm cool with talk about sports!Adam54 wrote:I'm scared to reply to this here on the grounds that Negs might yell at me again.
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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You were only mostly talking about them.
- Adam54
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I was entirely talking about tennis and basketball within the context of professional wrestling.
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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And that's only mostly where you went wrong.
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If that's wrong, I don't want to be right.
- Mal Shot First
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- Adam54
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You people seem to be forgetting that professional wrestling is the ballet of athletic competitions. It's graceful. It's classy. It's elegant, even.
- Adam54
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Damn it. I'm doing it again. Sorry Negs! Sorry! I'll stop!
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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Some would say ballet is the ballet of athletic competitions. Well, it's not really a competition. Unless they have some kind of So You Think You Can Ballet competition out there. I'm sure they do, come to think.
I suppose ballet is also competitive when you think about securing a place in a production. For every production of Giselle at the Met, there are hundreds of would-be Giselles who didn't make the cut. In this way, ballet and professional wrestling are similarly competitive.
I suppose ballet is also competitive when you think about securing a place in a production. For every production of Giselle at the Met, there are hundreds of would-be Giselles who didn't make the cut. In this way, ballet and professional wrestling are similarly competitive.
- Adam54
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See? SEE?!
Maybe there needs to be some sort of Briefcase introduced to ballet!
Maybe there needs to be some sort of Briefcase introduced to ballet!
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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That one might actually work.
- Adam54
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See? SEE?!
- The Swollen Goiter of God
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If it works, it's likely because there's an age-old debate where both are concerned as to whether or not they are competitive sports. In both cases, also, it is generally acknowledged that they are art forms requiring high degrees of skill and technique.
- Dalty
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It was very late.The Swollen Goiter of God wrote:Negs just made a mean and masterful dig, Dalty. You may have missed it.
Damn, she's good.
- Mal Shot First
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Yeah, pro wrestling is more like athletic theater than a sport. For a sport, you need actual competition without a predetermined outcome.The Swollen Goiter of God wrote:If it works, it's likely because there's an age-old debate where both are concerned as to whether or not they are competitive sports. In both cases, also, it is generally acknowledged that they are art forms requiring high degrees of skill and technique.
- Adam54
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People often laugh when I compare pro wrestling to ballet. This is precisely why they shouldn't.The Swollen Goiter of God wrote:In both cases, also, it is generally acknowledged that they are art forms requiring high degrees of skill and technique.
- Adam54
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What are you trying to say? Wrestling's not real?!Mal Shot First wrote: For a sport, you need actual competition without a predetermined outcome.